It's like watching a flood roll in...

November 5 2009, 23:00:06 UTC 2 years ago

*facepalm* oh brother, so it'll be a lot of angry black people all mad at the innocent white folks who've just been through so much!!! i'm sensing lots and lots of opportunities for good white folks to get up on their crosses for this.

and on that note, did anyone catch the really odd re-done 2012 trailers? I saw one when I went to see This Is It and I was just totally flabbergasted that they'd put this very upbeat 'hopeful' song over what was basically the same trailer full of disaster porn. i'm trying to find it on youtube, but i've had no luck.

Also--Emmerich can suck it. Turning a whole culture into their brown bogeyman is bullshit. Mayans were fair game and now South Africans. smdh

November 5 2009, 23:34:18 UTC 2 years ago

I heard that upbeat song. It's Adam Lambert from American Idol and I was all like, "Wait, the world is ending (seriously ending) and you're talking about still finding love????"

At least when The Poseidon Adventure rolled out "The Morning After", it actually made sense.

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raincitygirl

November 5 2009, 23:07:16 UTC 2 years ago

Uh huh. That's...special.

Well, on the bright side, at least Emmerich and Co. were considerate enough to give us plenty of warning about the MASSIVE FAIL. Means I know in advance not to set my DVR to record this show under any circumstances.

Is there nobody on Emmerich's staff in a position to speak up and say, "Uh, boss, this concept may have ramifications you haven't considered."? I guess not. Either that or someone did speak up and were roundly ignored as oversensitive.

November 6 2009, 02:33:22 UTC 2 years ago

I doubt if anyone in his camp even thought it would be a problem.

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November 5 2009, 23:32:47 UTC 2 years ago

Y'know, way for Emmerich to ruin my disaster porn movie for the sake of having some fucked up show.

Seriously, I had no expectation that 2012 would be anything but disaster porn with no redeeming value whatsoever but now there's going to be a show with angry people in Africa.

Two things:

*You know just about everybody important in the cast in Cape Town will probably be white

*There will be no interrogation about why people were left behind in the first place.

What would make it work for me:

That aforementioned angry African peoples had prepared themselves the best way they knew how and survived then when the ships showed up, met the other survivors with guns and said, "No, you can't stay here."

starcannibal

November 5 2009, 23:50:11 UTC 2 years ago

"What would make it work for me:

That aforementioned angry African peoples had prepared themselves the best way they knew how and survived then when the ships showed up, met the other survivors with guns and said, "No, you can't stay here."

I soooooooo like this!! :)

Is 2012 out yet?? I don't understand the whole their upset cuz they got left behind stuff. Is he doing that weird christian End of Days/Rapture crap or what??

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unusualmusic

November 5 2009, 23:52:00 UTC 2 years ago

THIS

November 6 2009, 00:17:31 UTC 2 years ago

Actually that would be fucking brilliant, if they did it realistically and didn't just have the Americans come back with a salvaged nuke or something to force their way in. Something like that would advance the whole genre past disaster porn and into serious futurism.

...which is why it'll never happen. ::sigh::

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November 6 2009, 05:25:57 UTC 2 years ago

I have fantasies about going back in time (sometimes bringing automatic weaponry) and telling the Americas First Nations Tribes, North & South, via pre-researched notes, not to trust the ones in the ships. Kill them all. Every last one. Then burn them. Then sow salt.

So I wouldn't want just 'No you can't stay here'. I'd want rocket launchers and people all. "You got ten seconds to leave before we blow your ass up. 8, 7, 6..."

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digital_femme

November 5 2009, 23:50:57 UTC 2 years ago

Summed up in one word.

Mmmph.

digital_femme

November 5 2009, 23:55:27 UTC 2 years ago

Re: Summed up in one word.

No, wait. I have more to say...

"And how do you start a new society?"

Seems to me like there is already one in place. There are already people living there! That is so insulting.

November 6 2009, 00:15:22 UTC 2 years ago

Re: Summed up in one word.

Yes, well, obviously the thousands of societies that already exist in Africa don't count, since simply joining them (as opposed to starting over from scratch) isn't presented as an option.

My prediction: either the continent will be mysteriously empty, so we end up with a tale of white people trying to survive in "darkest Africa"; or all the cities and technology that already exists there will be destroyed, and the black people will mysteriously lose their ability to innovate and organize, meaning we end up with a What This Continent Needs Is A (few more, American) Honky(s) situation.

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unusualmusic

November 5 2009, 23:51:33 UTC 2 years ago

oh. jesus. fucking. god.

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

foxglove

November 6 2009, 00:15:53 UTC 2 years ago

Why are characters surviving 2012 at all? Shenanigans. "And how do you start a new society?" Just. Of course. Leave it to the genius responsible for ~10,000 BC~ to make a show about white people colonizing Africa. In a post-apocalyptic world, so it's totally OK. How does this shit ever make it past concept?

p.s. Hahahaha 10,000 BC. Oh. Oh, no.

November 6 2009, 02:30:33 UTC 2 years ago

See, if they had the stones, they'd kill off everyone. That's what happened, for the most part, in Nicholas Cage's movie Knowing. Kids around the world were saved by some aliens to start over. Everyone else was doomed and the earth got destroyed to boot.

I have some major issues with the way parts of the ending rolled out but, man, they built up that impending doom and when we got to the big reveal, it really was like a kick in the gut.

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skywaterblue

November 6 2009, 00:34:55 UTC 2 years ago

They discovered that Africa is still existing. It has just risen a couple thousand feet. But that's it. And we ended on a really really small note about a little girl who overcame her fear. It was a very small way [to end]. Which was also kind of for us something very personal and poignant. [In the sequel] people would expect visual effects but it will be only what happened between people. We can do that on a TV show week after week after week.

It's just the fact that they come off their shiny arcs to a destroyed Cape Town. And it's not the bright and happy future everybody was envisioning. It's same old problems.

Mmmmhmm. A couple thousand feet? Why on Earth would there be anything recognizably left of Cape Town after that? Unless you're trying to tell me it just happened to pop out on top of New Everest or whatever.

This is going to suck, not just because it's AWESOMELY RACIST but because if you're seriously going to blow the world up in a movie in the most ridiculous ways possible, don't ask me to buy some believable social drama is going to come out of that.

November 6 2009, 03:40:32 UTC 2 years ago Edited: November 6 2009, 03:41:51 UTC

Mmmmhmm. A couple thousand feet? Why on Earth would there be anything recognizably left of Cape Town after that? Unless you're trying to tell me it just happened to pop out on top of New Everest or whatever.

Yeah, that makes absolutely NO SENSE. If you watch the 2012 trailers, there's one where a gigantic wave takes out a monastery. In the mountains. Waaaay above sea level.

In order for this little scenario to work, you'd need the entire tectonic plate that Africa sat on to shift upwards. Maybe in the cataclysmic scenario it does, but surviving that kind of earth shift? I can't think of how anyone could and still have a way to get food, have shelter or anything like that.

kelleah

November 6 2009, 03:36:39 UTC 2 years ago

Request:

Can everyone please stop using the phrase "disaster porn"? It's bad enough that folks are using the word "porn" like it's a bad thing, but, that phrase sounds like something your common nonsensical, white, hipster, elitist bullshit-artist would invent.

Oh wait. That's because they did.

darkrosetiger

November 6 2009, 03:55:33 UTC 2 years ago

Roland Emmerich directed The Patriot, in which the fictional correspondent of Francis "the Swamp Fox" Marion, a tobacco farmer in pre-Revolution South Carolina doesn't have slaves. The black people out in the fields? Hired, paid workers. Because we can't have the hero be a slave owner, and we can't suggest that the British, who offered freedom to slaves who supported the loyalist side, might not have been completely in the wrong.

(Yes, I own the movie. It is only for the guy whose ass is in that picture, because Jason Isaacs was magnificient as the villain in his scenery-chewing way.)

delux_vivens

November 6 2009, 05:45:27 UTC 2 years ago

The black people out in the fields? Hired, paid workers.

I remember that. I laughed until my sides hurt. Becuase that was *some bullshit*.